This is episode 635. Read the complete transcript on the Sales Game Changers Podcast website. Purchase Fred Diamond's best-sellers Love, Hope, Lyme: What Family Members, Partners, and Friends Who Love a Chronic Lyme Survivor Need to Know and Insights for Sales Game Changers now! Today's show featured an interview with Anne Desjardins. She's the host of the Silver Lymings podcast and is an account executive with PaperWorks. ANNE'S ADVICE:  "Activity equals activity.  As much drudgery as it is to pick up the phone and call people, or send out an email, or touch base with somebody, even if it doesn’t get you somewhere, it generates enough energy in the universe to support you and stuff starts popping in other places that maybe you didn’t see it coming."