Episode 28: Bryan Kramer on Why the Future of Sales and Marketing Belongs to Humans—Not Robots

Juliana Slye on The Challenges of Marketing and Selling to the Public Sector: In Juliana Slye’s long career throughout the private and public sectors, two things have stuck with her more than anything: “It’s not about me, or where I believe the market is headed. It’s really all about the customer.” At the end of the day, if the customer doesn’t want it, it’s not going to happen. “You can’t go against your DNA.” Whether personal or professional, you have to take that DNA and make that work for you. Today, she is the CEO and Chief Strategist at Government Business Results, and she says that “there is no other industry that is more challenging, more compelling, and more risk/reward laden than working within the public sector.” Listen in to hear her stories of how a normal gift in the private sector can cause a panic when sent to the public sector, as well as why she’s so passionate about the work she does. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

47 min listen

Brian Burns on 5 Key Elements to Build a Next Generation Sales Team: Sales has become an increasingly dynamic profession - from AI, to the evolving use of social media, to ever more complex decision making from buyers. As a result, team structures that used to work, will not work in the future. Brian Burns, host of The Brutal Truth About Sales & Selling, sits down with Chad Sanderson, Managing Partner, Value Prime Solutions, to discuss the five key elements sales executives need to consider as they design their next generation sales team and sales professionals must be aware of in order to succeed the next evolution of sales. Subscribe to the podcast or listen to the episode above as they discuss the 5 key elements sales executives must consider as they build their next generation sales teams. Podcast Blog Link: www.b2brevexec.com Value Prime Solutions: http://www.valueprimesolutions.com/ Chad Sanderson - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadsanderson/ Brian Burns - LinkedIn: by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

28 min listen

Mark Kosoglow on Why Sales Reps Shouldn’t Select Their Own Accounts: “The more complex you make the sale, the less success you’re going to have. As Mark Kosoglow, VP of Sales at Outreach.io, puts it, “humans suck at making decisions.” Therefore, the way you sell has to be focused and value-driven. In this episode, Mark shares some of Outreach’s greatest successes and obstacles, as well as why revenue executives shouldn’t allow their reps to select the accounts they prospect into. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

38 min listen

WTH is the The B2B Revenue Executive Experience?: There are some great podcasts out there on sales enablement. They have fantastic advice on how to accomplish certain goals and strategies, as well as how emerging technology affects our work.  But there's a gap in the podcast world.  Chad Sanderson, your host, started this podcast because he wants to hear from his potential buyers about what they really care about, and how they respond to the sales process.  You're going to be hearing guests that range from the Minnesota Vikings to Adobe. This should be fun. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

10 min listen

Les Trachtman on Why Founders Often Make Terrible CEOs: Quite commonly, founders make terrible CEOs. They often have a difficult time segregating their personal relationships with their founding teams from the objective reality of the situation. That’s not an attack on founders: it’s hard time starting a company from scratch, and you often have to have a band of loyal followers in the beginning. The problem is that a company, once it scales, usually needs much different talent. In this episode Les Trachtman, CEO of Purview, shares from his experiences taking over the CEO role from six different founders. He also talks about his upcoming book, Don’t F*** It Up (and 31 other things a founder should never say). by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

28 min listen

Audelia Boker on Sales Is Rapidly Becoming More Digital (Here’s How to Stay Ahead of the Trend): Lots of companies are trying to map customer journeys across channels, but that may be unnecessary. The customer journey is becoming more and more digital. A few statistics illustrate the point. In the UK, eCommerce sales account for just 14% of total retail sales. In the U.S., it’s only 8%. Looking at these, you wouldn’t expect that digital is taking over, but then the narrative shifts when you look at preferences. It turns out that 40% of U.S. males between the ages of 18-34 say that they would ideally buy everything online. We can all relate to that desire for convenience. We’re also more and more demanding from digital platforms put out by service providers. 39% of us would stop engaging with a website if it takes too long to load. These statistics and more come from our guest today: Audelia Boker, VP of Marketing at Glassbox Digital. Audelia made a case for why understanding the online by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

36 min listen

Cindy Kennedy on 3 Key Components of Customer Service in Sales: “The most important and most valuable service you can provide is an excellent experience.” - Cindy Kennedy, District Manager for Corus360 Customer service is a critical component to driving revenue and account expansion. In this episode, Cindy Kennedy tells us why listening, trust, and responsiveness are inseparable from sales success. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

25 min listen

Todd Handy on Outsourcing Your Sales Efforts: At some point, every company has to consider what type of a sales team they will use. Outsourcing sales can benefit companies by not only improving ROI, but by providing a core competency in something that a business might not have. We recently sat down with Todd Handy, Vice President and Managing Director of Digital Media and AdTech at MarketStar, to discuss why companies consider outsourcing. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

41 min listen

Mark McKinney & Steve Fedorko on “My Client Is the Devil:” How to Stop Complaining and Get a Better Perspective: There’s never a shortage of people complaining about their clients. You can get stuck in that kind of thinking, but there is another way of looking at things. It all comes down to the way you think about yourself and your client. After all, you can’t do a great job taking care of clients until you’ve taken care of yourself. Today’s guests are Mark McKinney, VP of Client Development at Bottle Rocket Studios and Steve Fedorko, both authors of the book My Client Is the Devil (And Other Myths). They’re both psychologists who happened to work in marketing agencies, so they put their expertise together. They left academia to learn and teach how much psychology is used in business everywhere. There are a lot of books on helping clients, but not a lot on how you help yourself get better at helping clients. This is one of them. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

41 min listen

Tod Caflisch on The Minnesota Vikings Fan Experience (and Where It’s Headed) by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

36 min listen

Mike Moore on Generating Revenue in a Digital Agency: We’ve seen a lot of consolidation of digital agencies over the years, with many getting bought up by “the Big Four.” Today, independent agencies struggle (at times) creating and maintaining a sustainable pipeline. So it’s worth asking: How do those that survive work to make their revenue more predictable? In this episode Mike Moore, Partner and Chief Commercial Officer at WillowTree, covers the “real” social selling, some of his agency’s greatest hits, and why WillowTree isn’t aiming for intergalactic domination. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

40 min listen

Alex Rosemblat on The Importance of Having a Well-Trained Sales Team: Imagine a wall. If you have an untrained sales team, and you say, “Go, go, go,” they will inevitably keep running into the wall and bouncing off. After running into the wall enough times, you have to step back and ask how to get over it. There might be a lot of ways: you might be able to bring a ladder, make a human ladder, fly over, or use a pogo stick. It’s an analogy, but for Datadog’s VP of Marketing, Alex Rosemblat, this is what training is: teaching people how to get over the walls that they run into with buyers. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

39 min listen

Brian Turner on Why Revenue Should Be Used as a Trailing (Although Critical) Indicator of Business Health: “Revenue should not be your leading indicator.” Come again? That’s the claim made by Brian Turner, General Manager with Slalom. Brian says that while revenue is absolutely a critical indicator of the health of your business, you run into problems when you make it the leading indicator. You solution your rate and structure around a dollar, and you can backend the most important part of the solution—the value you bring to the client. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

37 min listen

Tim Matthews on The Challenges of Demand Generation and Goal Setting: In this episode we were able to sit down with Tim Matthews, VP of Marketing for Imperva and syndicated blogger and author of The Professional Marketer, to unravel the mystery of how to effectively align sales and marketing and challenges related to demand generation planning and goal setting. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

32 min listen

Mark Shank on What “Digital Transformation” Really Means Today: Digital transformation isn’t Mark Shank’s favorite term. Yet, he recognizes that it’s widely used, and so he uses the term to speak the language of his clients. He takes the often narrow definition of digital transformation—implementing a new system—and teaches people to work outward from that understanding to identify how everyone involved in transformation is affected. Listen in to hear Mark share tips for staying ahead of the curve in transformation based on his work with KPMG. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

40 min listen

Eric Berggren on Customer Value: Why Organizations Fail to Get It Right: Every successful business needs to sell something at a price where they can make enough money. If they can’t, they’re going to go out of business. If that’s the fundamental challenge, we’ve got to understand how customers decide to buy. Everybody talks about value, but nobody really tells you how to do it. That’s what we’re addressing in this episode with Eric Berggren, Professor of Marketing from Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern and Managing Director of Axios Partners. In Eric’s words, “Customers decide to buy based on the value they get from one product versus another. Whatever nets out to be the best value, that’s where they’re going to go.” Listen in to hear Eric explore the topic of customer value inside and out. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

38 min listen

Mostafa El-Bermawy on The 4 Pillars of Effective SEO: Mostafa El-Bermawy is VP of Marketing at Workzone, but “SEO” probably belongs somewhere in his title, too. Mostafa has been doing SEO for about eight years. He’s made a lot of mistakes, but those mistakes helped him eventually settle on a formula that work very well for creating sustainable SEO. Listen in to hear Mostafa share some of his SEO formula, as well as his thoughts on marketing automation today. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

36 min listen

Jiri Marousek on How Building a Capable Internal Team Equals More Revenue: You’ve seen plenty of companies focused on pushing sales organizations hard to generate more revenue. There’s often a focus inside companies to get more out of the salespeople they have. This is a viable plan of attack, but it’s not the only one. Over the last five years, we’ve seen an increase in marketing and services agencies, and they aren’t cheap—even if the services they provide are seen as critical. So today, we want to talk about how building that internal capability is not only worth the investment: it can also increase revenue. To do that, we’re talking to Jiri Marousek, Chief Marketing Officer at the AOPA (Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association). Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

47 min listen

5 Ways to Make Your Deals Larger with Brian Burns: Sales professionals are interested in making their deals larger, increasing the revenue gains and hitting quota with fewer deals. The challenge - few know how to consistently accomplish this. There are tactics and approaches which have proven effective and continue to be table steaks for sales professionals selling today. Podcast Blog Link: http://www.valueprimesolutions.com/5-ways-to-make-your-deals-larger FEEDBACK FORM (Free $5 Starbucks Gift Card): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScs9W38coICbcZsEByV2xil6JSHjkpm4_Rk3gBUIGRU6oQnbA/viewform?c=0&w=1 Value Prime Solutions: http://www.valueprimesolutions.com/ Chad Sanderson - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadsanderson/ Brian Burns - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianburns/ The Brutal Truth About Sales & Selling podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/brutal-truth-about-sales-selling/id327760868?mt=2 by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

30 min listen

Kevin Dorsey on 3 Tips for Creating a Sales Culture that Sells: Businesses are complicated entities with a lot of moving parts, any of which are indispensable to making sure that things run smoothly and that the revenue continues to flow inward. But, there is one department that is impossible to ignore when trying to sell a product: Sales. A bit obvious perhaps, but as many can attest, developing an effective sales team can be like fumbling in the dark for a light switch that you’re only 90% sure is actually on the wall nearby. And a lot of that uncertainty is caused by the culture of the company or the sales team. How exactly do you develop a sales culture that brings in results? In this episode, Kevin Dorsey, VP of Sales Development and Enablement for SnackNation, offers a wide range of tips for creating a dynamic sales team by explaining how the salespeople at SnackNation have grown and developed a sales culture that sells. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

36 min listen

Barb Giamanco on Improving the Sales Experience: Everyone is familiar with the phrase “customer experience.” But what about the experiences a customer has with a sale before signing on the dotted line? We spoke with Barb Giamanco, author of The New Handshake: Sales Meets Social Media and one of the most recognized thought leaders in sales about what makes a good sales experience and how salespeople need to invest in themselves to find success. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

36 min listen

Barbara Trautlein on Improving Change Intelligence: The world is continually going through a great deal of transformations. Whether these are digital transformations or sales transformations, they all mean the same thing: change has become the norm whether you like it or not. While some organizations change to deliver great results, many of them fail and in worst case scenarios harm organizations and individuals involved. We sat down with Barbara Trautlein , author of Change Intelligence, to discuss why organizations struggle with change and the role that leadership plays. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

31 min listen

Bret Rachlin on How and Why B2B Buyers Buy: The number of people talking about how B2B buyers have changed and are more informed today are legion. The question now becomes how do you understand them, how do you connect with them, and what do you need to know in order to connect with them effectively to drive revenue growth and results. Podcast Blog Link: http://www.valueprimesolutions.com/how-and-why-b2b-buyers-buy FEEDBACK FORM (Free $5 Starbucks Gift Card): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScs9W38coICbcZsEByV2xil6JSHjkpm4_Rk3gBUIGRU6oQnbA/viewform?c=0&w=1 Value Prime Solutions: http://www.valueprimesolutions.com/ Chad Sanderson - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadsanderson/ by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

30 min listen

Daniel Miller on How to Make Your Email Marketing More Effective Immediately: Email is always a hot topic, and we all know that outreach is a critical component of effective prospecting. But just because we realize the importance of email, it doesn’t mean we’re anywhere close to using it as effectively as we can. In this episode, Chad interviews Daniel Miller, Director of Marketing for Benchmark Email, who lives and breathes the world of email marketing. He shares his best tips for what to change today in your email strategy, including segmenting your subscribers, focusing on your first emails, and injecting personality into your messaging. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

26 min listen

Leverage Your Sales Process for Differentiation with Brian Burns: Everyone is looking for ways to differentiate in sales, but often miss the one place that is closest to home, their own sales process. Chad Sanderson and Brian Burns discuss five of the key areas of focus for sales executives and professionals to consider in order to make differentiation possible. Subscribe to the podcast or listen to the episode above as they discuss the 5 key elements sales executives must consider as they build their next generation sales teams. Podcast Blog Link: www.b2brevexec.com Value Prime Solutions: http://www.valueprimesolutions.com/ Chad Sanderson - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chadsanderson/ Brian Burns - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianburns/ The Brutal Truth About Sales & Selling podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/brutal-truth-about-sales-selling/id327760868?mt=2 by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

30 min listen

Brian Burns on 5 Things That Make a Demo Great: Demos play a critical role in every sales process. Oftentimes, just being prepared to give a demo isn’t enough. Sales professionals need to be mindful of other factors besides knowing their products to have their demo be a success. Brian Burns, host of The Brutal Truth About Sales & Selling, sat down with Chad Sanderson, Managing Partner, Value Prime Solutions, to discuss five things that make a demo great. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

29 min listen

David Bauders on Negotiation Training for Sellers in the Cognitive Era: Sales training has long been viewed as a necessary evil, lacking a major component to success: negotiation training. We recently interviewed David Bauders, CEO of Strategic Pricing Associates, a company that leverages analytics and training to master profit opportunity. Here’s what we learned from Bauders. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

30 min listen

Brian Burns on 5 Things That Separate A Players From B Players: With the onslaught of artificial intelligence and new technologies impacting the sales profession, the question is often asked: “Will people still be relevant?” It’s generally agreed that yes, salespeople will still be needed – at least those that are the A players. Brian Burns, host of The Brutal Truth About Sales & Selling, sat down with Chad Sanderson, Managing Partner, Value Prime Solutions to discuss five things that make ultra high performers, or A players, so effective. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

31 min listen

Scott Santucci on How Sales Enablement Can Turn Your Sales Org Upside Down: Throw away your 57-step sales guidebook and keep it simple, stupid. In the most recent episode of the podcast, Chad sits down to talk to Scott Santucci, Director of The Alexander Group and founder of The Sales Enablement Society. Scott sees countless inefficiencies in many sales orgs today, but he has developed a method of simplifying the whole approach through Sales Enablement. This interview explores what the term “Sales Enablement” means, how to keep the sales process simple, how to implement these practical tips, and how the Sales Enablement Society came to be. Find a breakdown of this episode here. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

68 min listen

Lavon Koerner on How Psychometric Science Prompts Prescriptive Sales Training: The industry of sales training has been revolutionized by the idea of prescriptive training. This industry has experienced many new developments in recent years.Oftentimes, companies are focused on sales training in order to increase their revenue. This approach has largely been the standard of the business industry for years, but recent studies are suggesting that this one-size-fits-all training approach is ineffective in regards to revenue growth. In order to understand more about this shift in sale training, we sat down to speak with LaVon Koerner, Co-Founder of Revenue Storm. LaVon has experienced this shift in mindset regarding sales training firsthand. by The B2B Revenue Executive Experience

38 min listen

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