The Spotify/Joe Rogan situation seems to be gaining momentum as more musicians and podcasters dump the platform for Apple pastures. Wordle wiggles seven figures out of the New York Times, while product analytics company Pendo went out and purchased themselves a media company as the M&A market heats up. In rants and raves, Robert complains yet again about zero-party data. Joe comments on the early nature of NFTs, and begs Mark Ritson for more curiosity. Robert's book recommendation: The Opposable Mind by Roger Martin. --------- Liked this show? SUBSCRIBE to this podcast on Spotify, Apple, Google and more. Catch past episodes and show notes at ThisOldMarketing.site. image: Getty Images