What’s the People Leadership paradox? HR, the people tasked with driving outcomes via all the other individuals at the company, are often set up for failure. Employees are an organization’s largest expense and also the most important driver for achieving your goals. Shouldn’t companies be empowering HR to succeed? Helping employees thrive within the confines of a budget, performance standards, and compensation parameters is a paradox many people leaders face, and Julie Rogers joins the show to discuss performance in the context of the evolving employee engagement landscape. She also dives into challenges people leaders face, how to build trust between your people and organization, and best practices for developing lasting engagement. Join us as we discuss: [05:00] The evolution of employee engagement [08:00] Understanding the value of people data [10:30] Defining employee engagement [13:00] The paradox of people leadership [17:30] Acknowledging the two-way business relationship [21:00] Building employer-employee trust [28:00] Leading with clarity and kindness [32:00] Iterating on your people lifecycle [37:30] Why semantics matter [42:00] Setting expectations and communicating about perks For the entire interview, follow HR Superstars on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or Stitcher. Or tune in on our website. Original podcast track produced by Entheo. Join us at Thrive 2022 with your fellow HR leaders and their teams for an unforgettable experience of community-building, learning, and inspiration! We’ll have some fascinating panels and key notes where you’ll learn how to drive action that fuels higher performance, create more engaged humans, and how to build an HR team that unlocks the potential of managers and is in alignment with executives. We’ll also be recording a special episode of the HR Superstars podcast, live at the event. Go to 15Five.com/Thrive to register and get special early bird pricing until September 23rd. Want to connect with thousands of other strategic HR leaders like you, join the HR Superstars Community! Listening on a desktop & can’t see the links? Just search for HR Superstars in your favorite podcast player.*