Spring is here and so are Leslee (Design Producer on Marvel Strike Force at Scopely, previously a writer and development manager at Riot, and held a variety of narrative design and production roles at 2K and Dorian) and Cassandra (award-winning game & fiction writer who’s worked on such games as Sunless Skies, Wasteland 3, and Falcon Age)! They join us to talk about being stubborn, knowing when to stop pushing for something, writing barks, overlapping dialogue, where they start when creating characters, whether they’re plotters or pantsers, what their writing habits are, how to force yourself to start writing, how COVID has changed their habits, navigating bureaucracy, knowing when to leave your environment for a better one,  dealing with people overstepping their boundaries, and more!Our Guests on the InternetLeslee's Twitter and TiktokCassandra's Twitter and her three upcoming books are Walk Among Us, The All-Consuming World, and Nothing But Blackened TeethStuff We Talked AboutFinal Fantasy VII RemakeLife is Strange 2The Least of My Scars by Stephen Graham JonesStation Eleven by Emily St. John MandelSharp Objects by Gillian FlynnSandman Slim series by Richard KadreyOur theme music was created by Isabella Ness, and our logo was created by Lily Nishita.