Is your heart still hurting and you need help with moving on? There’s a book for that, and I chat with the author, counselor Erin E. Davidson.1:00 guest background3:00 Elle’s quick tips for getting over people6:00 breakups can be a type of grief9:00 when you find excuses to contact them13:00 recruiting your breakup team17:00 rumination and “switching tracks”22:00 life will be better again if you can leave safely27:00 disenfranchised grief 31:00 on being judged for divorcing AGAIN35:00 the right relationship for the time being41:00 some silly study on feeling better over time45:00 breakup pain can go up and down50:00 resources53:00 Elle says F U to an ex