having a great partner, someone who is very system oriented. I think a big thing for us is that as long as we're communicating both of what we see individually, cause our skill sets are totally different. these realizations came out and maybe like some psychedelics and things were involved at some points and we had realizations along the way, but it's been a slow journey to get to where we're really good at communicating with each other. we've always been together as business partners sometimes, but always supporters. I feel like we were always getting our back no matter what. We've always been able to bounce feedback back and forth to each other. we do share a vision, like there's this overlap of where we are going, but we, with healthy understanding of ourselves and how we actually combine how we talk with each other, what we're working on, how we're working, why we're doing things that was like a total burst of clarity for us.And then it was just communicating with each other and figuring out how to make this thing work. one of the things that I realized this was through just like the use of social media and stuff is when I would post stuff to Facebook. I used to just only share the wins. I would talk about Hey look, how many downloads we got on our show? Look how big this launched it for us. Look how much money we made. I would just share off all the, share, all the wins and stuff. And, you'd get people that are like, eh, congrats  and, you get the likes on it and stuff. But where I really got high engagement on social media was when I shared the struggles, right? Like there, there was one time where Joe and I were actually at a networking event and I, I'm a fairly introverted person and I struggled with social anxiety when there's a lot of people around.And I actually fainted in the middle of a networking event. I was just walking. I wasn't drinking. I just had a water in my hand and I just collapsed and fainted because the anxiety got the best of me. And I shared that story on Facebook and it's the most liked commented on the most support messages I ever received through PMs. And I feel like sharing this sort of like authentic truth that really happened to me was this catalyst for people wanting to reach out and support. And it was in maybe, that was a big pivotal moment for me, but it was in moments like that where I realized like, why am I only sharing this stuff? People need to see the bad, just as much as they need to see the good people need to see look like, we might on the podcast at times have this persona that we've got shit figured out. I think the reason people really follow us and gravitate to our podcasts now is to listen to it, realize these guys don't have their shit figured out.Matt and I were creating like 30 something pages, every single month of unique content in this thing. And we scaled it to a point where it was doing well. It's about a hundred dollars a month is what we were charging at the peak. And we just had a problem scaling it. And we just there's something in us. Matt has created a ton of online products and we're just like, We want to open up the flood Gates and get this content that we think is really good and helpful because we hear the feedback from folks, but we want to give it to more people and spread it to the world and not have it behind a paywall. So that's where, Matt was already doing the podcast. We're already doing affiliate marketing stuff. So we figured let's do the hustle podcast. We called it hustle and flow chart and we realized, okay, we have a really cool network. We're really connected. A lot of the people that I was clients with where some of our preliminary, our first guests. It started with that motivation is to give more than we ever have before. And trust that through the giving, we're going to create enough awareness branding and community around us, a connection relationships to these folks that are actually going to stick with us and listen to us and we'll see w