GEORGE:  Alright, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of the mind at George. It is free for all Friday, and I am picking everything bagel seeds out of my teeth today. And I'm excited because Travis is going to be talking and I'm going to be enjoying the flavor of this bagel for the next 45 minutes. And I have no idea why.But I went on a bagel kick this morning and I couldn't buy one. So I bought three. But today I am super, super excited, added to be joined by my guest who has an amazing bio. You can just Google it because it's phenomenal. And I would take the whole episode for me to read it, but it's somebody that I've actually known of an internet stock for probably four or five years. And it wasn't until our amazing mutual friend, Zach Benson introduced us. And so today I have Travis Chappell and the reason that I love Travis above everything else that he does besides the two podcasts. Amazing software working with the top entrepreneurs in the world is that Travis gets it. And when I say Travis gets it, he gets that people matter over everything else.And he has built his mission, helping people connect with people and not having them feel like you're a snake in the grass or kind of just in it for a deep transaction. And so that's the best intro I could give him. So Travis, welcome to the show.TRAVIS:  George what's up, man. Thanks so much for having me.GEORGE:  Do you have such a good podcasting voice? I can totally get it now. I love it. TRAVIS:  It's the mic. It's the mic setup.  GEORGE:   That's what I say. I was like, I'm still learning how to play with the audio tool so I can make myself, like, I want to be able to give myself a British accent, an Australian accent. And then like have that deep tone. Cause I feel like when you have one of those accents, you just sound 10 times smarter than everything else. TRAVIS:  True. It's actually psychologically proven. Yes. GEORGE:  I make this stuff up, but it's probably cause I heard it somewhere and that's how the neuroplasticity of my brain works. So one of the questions that I always love to start with, and I'm actually so interested to hear your response to this one.So the first question I ask is when you look back at your career and you've had quite a career. What was the biggest mistake or the biggest lesson that you've learned and what'd you take away from it and apply  nowTRAVIS:  I'd have to say that the biggest mistake that I've made is pushing things off and procrastinating. I ended up kind of be that type of a person in general, even like, you know, thinking back through school and in college and all that kind of stuff. It was just, I was always working best under pressure. You know, if the project's due tomorrow, I'm up the night before and I'll knock it out and I'll get an a, but I'm going to procrastinate till the very end. And so that's definitely something that I've had taken away from my entrepreneurial journey, because it bites you in the ass if you do it too much, you know what I'm saying? Like it no longer is a matter of,, well, it. You know that's one of those reasons. I think school is not a total proper preparation for what life is because there was no really there was no really con there was a real consequences to me waiting till the last minute to do a school project, except for that, you know, I'm up until 2:00 AM or whatever.That's really the only consequence which is that's not that big of a deal to you in college. You know what I mean? So like you can make it happen. You get an a, and you move on, but. The thing is in your entrepreneurial journey. If you sit on ideas too long, people will just start doing them.You know what I mean? Like didn't lose, you can lose time. You can lose a lot of money. You can lose influence, you can lose attention. There's so many things that that you lose by continuing to push things off and specifically the big thing I'm talking about is my podcast. Because man, if I would have just started it around the same t