I discovered, this kind of natural gift that I had to hear harmony and to I, something about the natural reverb of  the Baptist church that we went to and that's stuck with me all my life. I just loved that, that resonating tone and acoustic music in particular has always been my foundation.  I've delved in electric and electronic and all those different styles, but if I can make the sound without amplification it's, it seems to me more rooted in grounds me more. So a lot of my music is inspired by being in nature. I'm, I've been a lifelong surfer and an environmentalist. And I think that kind of comes through a lot in the songwriting . In a lot of the music is written, while I'm immersed in those places, I'll write verses while I'm sitting on my board in the middle of new England in the middle of winter. The water's 36 degrees and it's just, that's my church now is where I can be in those spaces of complete unattachment from This kind of new age world that we live in of of technology and instant gratification, you have to stick yourself in into nature and there's no compassion, the ocean doesn't know compassion. it's really you're putting yourself in harm's way and when you figure out how you react to that, I think that's when you really discover who you are. And so I always just feel like that transcends through sound. It's Sonic waves are the same thing as ocean waves,they begin somewhere and as they get further apart, they spread out and it's just this interesting analogy. I've. I just realized over time as my life is all about riding waves, sound waves, and rhythm, are like the essence of who I am. That's the womb version of how I become musically inspired.I've definitely struggled with that balance of obviously we have to make a living to be able to do to continue to make these albums and stuff. It's getting harder and harder as streaming revenues are abysmal compared to when we used to. Have, even downloads were a much better, 67 cents per dollar was the average for iTunes downloads. I could almost guarantee after I put an album out that I could make back. Within the first quarter, at least half of what I put into it. And now, you it's been two years since I released rise and I haven't even gotten maybe a quarter or halfway there what it costs me to make it.  And that's troubling as a, family man and obviously I, family always comes first and making sure that we're taken care of is important to me and touring this year went away completely. So that was really my bread and butter was the touring side of things.And I've always seen myself more as a live musician than a studio artists, because I just, I get something off of the audience and the vibration that I can't explain that really makes me believe in what I'm doing And I just, I put so much of myself into the performance that I've had a hard time this year, without that experience we've, I've done a lot of live streaming, but it's just, it's not the same at all to as being in the room with somebody and feeling their energy and sharing energy with. And I think that's been obviously a huge issue for a lot of people this year is that isolation we've been feeling. But I'm anxious to get back to, that human connection, that experience of sharing energy with another person and many people in my case.I have tons of songs that I've shelved because I just quite, wasn't quite happy with where it was. Ended up or landed or it's, maybe it just needs a few more tweaks, but generally thosesongs I'm not too worried about because if if I am working that hard to try to finish them. Then chances are, they're not that good in my experience. The best music I've written is. It takes me a day to write and it's because you're so raw you're so tapped into whatever emotion it may be that you're trying to translate to to art or to music in this case. You hit this flow state where it's, you're just acting as a conduit and you just have to let yourself open up to that.song writing is such a the