Programming and routines can look different for every trainer, so it's important to know how you can best serve your clients whether they're professional athletes or part of the general population.  In this week's episode, Betina and Nic interview long-time friend, online trainer and programming expert Josh Clay about his training philosophy and how to best support the people he trains. They also discuss how they shut down as part of their evening routines, the power of red light glasses and their similar practices that help ensure a good night's rest. Clay talks about consistency and driving programs that are simple and effective to meet the needs of those looking to be more athletic and more. Learn more about Josh and his training programs: https://wetrainmnm.com/ Have questions for Betina & Nic? Email the show at contact@beyondtheroutinepodcast.com for a chance to have your question answered on a future episode.  Follow us on Instagram: @beyondtheroutinepodcastVisit us beyondtheroutinepodcast.comDisclaimer: This podcast represents the opinions of Beyond the Routine hosts Betina and Nic Shimonek and their guests. Views and opinions expressed in the podcast are their own and should not be taken as medical advice. The podcast content is for informational purposes only. Please consult your healthcare professional for any medical questions.