We’re joined by writer and author Oliver Burkeman to talk about the productivity-trap; the narrative that keeps our sense of self-worth and value tied to how much we get done and achieve. In his new book, Four Thousand Weeks, Oliver argues that this only results in disappointment and unhappiness, and explores how to cultivate a healthier relationship with productivity to ultimately lead a more fulfilling life. We discuss:Confronting the mismatch between what we can do and what we think we can doDisarming perfectionism and the ‘when I’ mentalityThe relationship between productivity and self-worthThe catch 22 of getting things doneWhy the notion of ‘balance’ may not always be the answerThe benefit of enjoying leisure activities without any end goal in mindThe distraction economyWays to approach getting what matters doneHow to cultivate a healthier relationship with productivityOliver Burkeman:‘Four Thousand Weeks: Time and How to Use It’Four Thousand Weeks: Embrace Your Limits. Change Your Life. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.