In this episode, Matt talks with Scott Miller, author of Management Mess to Leadership Success and host of FranklinCovey On Leadership With Scott Miller podcast.Most people who teach about leadership will tell you, “Here’s how I became successful. Here’s how you do it.” Rarely will you find someone who’s vulnerable enough to say, “Well - I made some mistakes. Do NOT do what I did.”And that’s why this week’s guest stands out among most other leadership thought leaders. It’s Scott Miller.Scott’s the Executive VP of Thought Leadership with Franklin Covey. He’s the host of  FranklinCovey's On Leadership With Scott Miller podcast. And he’s one of the few authors who’s written a leadership book filled with lessons on what NOT to do - Management Mess to Leadership Success. It’s 30 different challenges he went through and that you need to overcome if you want to be seen as a valued leader.We hope you enjoy this episode, and we're excited for you to hear the next ones. We've got more great guest interviews and a few lessons with Matt along the way.Join the simplicity crusade and hit subscribe!