Brian Massey is the Co-Founder and Managing Director of Conversion Sciences, and author of the book Your Customer Creation Equation. His rare combination of interests and experience developed over 30 years as a computer programmer, entrepreneur, corporate marketer, international speaker, and writer. Brian Massey believes that being curious is more important than being right. Sometimes the data supports your hypothesis, but sometimes it shows you that you had it all wrong and it’s time to change course. Brian has a clear approach to conversion rate optimization: gather data on everything you possibly can. In this episode of The Long Game, he shares his CRO strategies, the secret to finding the right business partner, and how his contrarian personality fuels his crusade against standardized agency-built websites.Founded in 2007, Conversion Sciences helps businesses transform their sites through a steady diet of visitor profiling, purposeful content, analytics, and AB testing. Brian has worked with hundreds of companies to improve their online business. He is a sought-after speaker, presenting at IBM, Inbound, LeadsCon, Content Marketing World, Affiliate Summit, and others. He has written for online publications including ClickZ, Search Engine Land and Marketing Land. He's the host of the Intended Consequences podcast.Conversion Sciences is a data-driven digital design agency focusing on getting the most value from every visitor to your digital properties. They provide design, research, and testing services to businesses of all sizes.We hope you enjoy this episode on the fundamentals of CRO according to Brian Massey.Connect with Brian on Linkedin, Conversion Sciences, and check out his podcast.Connect with Omniscient Digital on social:Twitter: @beomniscientLinkedin: Be OmniscientListen to more episodes of The Long Game podcast here: https://beomniscient.com/podcast/