In this conversation, Paul and Stoph discuss the importance of fertility in bodybuilding and the use of Enclomifene, HCG, and HMG to maintain and improve fertility. They explain the differences between Zuclomifene and Enclomifene, the effects of Enclomifene on testosterone and estrogen levels, and the studies conducted on Enlomifene's impact on fertility. They also discuss use of HCG and HMG for fertility. They highlight the cost and availability of these supplements and the impact of anabolic usage on fertility. They conclude by discussing the benefits of taking HCG on cycle and during PCT for maintaining fertility.