Want to hear a crazy shit story (literally)? Of course you do, that’s why you’re here! Chris Prefontaine, a real estate investor and coach, had to do some quick problem-solving when things went south at one of his college investment properties. If you’ve got questions about how investments work without a bank loan or personal money, Chris is the guy to ask. Listen in to hear Chris share what he advises investors, why people love his solution, and how he brought his sons into the business, too.  Please subscribe to this podcast in iTunes or in the Podcasts App on your phone, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting leighbrown.com. If you’re tired of doing real estate alone, enroll in  Leigh Brown University and be sure to use your special “CSIRE” discount code at checkout for $10 off your subscription. Time Stamped Show Notes 00:40 – Introducing Chris, who’s been in the industry for almost 30 years 00:50 - He’s in Newport, Rhode Island and works with his two sons running a buying and selling entity and coaches others to do the same 02:40 - He got crushed in 2008, but during COVID-19 he’s been tripling deals 03:30 - They buy everything lease-purchase or owner financing; neither require a bank loan or personal money 04:00 – How it works 04:05 - Banks aren’t lending like they were, a lease-purchase helps people lock in profit and be hands-off on the process 05:20 - It helps you protect what you have no matter what the market does; he helps people get the solution they need 06:25 - His CSIRE story 06:30 - A client stayed in a home for 26 months and gave them credit the whole time; when she left, they had a payment due 07:25 - They gave her stability and peace of mind, but she was essentially paying to be in her home 07:40 - On debt limits 07:50 - After 2008, he’s careful not to be overleveraged and advises investors to do the same 08:25 - Another CSIRE story 08:30 - They used to buy college properties; they got a call and the basement was full of sewage a foot deep 09:10 - They went in and cleaned it manually and it happened a second time at the same property; it wasn’t the kid’s fault, roots had grown into the pipes 10:20 - How to contact Chris: Free webinar: www.smartrealestatecoach.com/webinar Free strategy call: www.smartrealestatecoach.com/action Free book: www.freesrecbook.com https://www.smartrealestatecoach.com/thriving - it's a chapter in the Newly Revised Real Estate On Your Terms for free  3 Key Points You can’t learn better than toe-to-toe. Don’t be overleveraged. People value stability and peace of mind.