In this week's episode, I welcome special guests Scott MacPherson and Darren Brown in a fun, meandering conversation. Both are former members of Rogue Athletic Club (our former elite team) and now with OOFOS in marketing or sales. Scott's a 2:14 marathoner whose claim to fame is beating both Meb Keflezighi and Ryan Hall in races.  Darren became part of the first father/son tandem in the US to break 4 minutes for the mile and later won the BAA Road Mile as an elite. While training with Rogue AC, they also worked with Rogue as employees and coaches. In this conversation, they share their perspective on Rogue history, talk about racing and training as an elite, and of course, give their tips and lessons on recovery from years of hard training. Note: this is not a paid episode, but OOFOS is a product sponsor for our virtual 5K series this summer called the Front Door 5K series.