In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Joe Cecala who is the founder of the Dream Exchange. The first majority black owned stock exchange. It will be the first stock exchange that will list companies that work for the greater good. It's purpose is to invest in companies that will be able to enhance humanity's ability to be pro survival. They discuss the man behind the dream and why the Dream Exchange is important to him. Joe shares the mindset that you need to succeed in doing something bigger than yourself. This is a wide ranging conversation, so listen up! Judith's websites:  The Maverick Paradox Magazine - themaverickparadox.com Company Website - maverickparadox.co.uk Judith's LinkedIn profile is here, her Twitter profile (MaverickMastery) is here, Facebook here and Instagram here.