In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Jenny L Mitchell about leadership journeys and approaches. Key Takeaways There are parallels between Judith's "maverick" leadership style and Jenny's "underdog" leadership style - both value authenticity, curiosity, and bringing out the best in others. Mindset is key - assume positive intent, focus on possibilities rather than obstacles. Critical thinking skills in younger generations may not transfer across all domains - need to educate holistically. Leadership is a constant process of negotiation and seeking to understand. Meetings should drive decisions, not just discussion. Women leaders often take on "glass cliff" assignments and overcome perception barriers on their journey. Visionary mindset helps. Important for marginalised voices (women, people of colour) to be heard and supported as leaders. In this conversation Judith and Jenny debate different leadership styles like mavericks and underdogs, with Jenny advocating for embracing challenges and Judith emphasising seeking first to understand others' perspectives. Jenny outlines five pillars of top women leaders' experiences: embodied roles, embracing challenges, overcoming perceptions, accepting high-risk assignments, and visionary mindsets. You can find out more about our guest and today's episode in this Maverick Paradox Magazine article here. --- Maverick leadership is all about thinking outside the box and challenging the status quo. It's about having the courage to take risks and the confidence to lead in a way that is authentic and genuine. But amplifying your influence as a leader isn't just about having a strong vision or a big personality. It's also about having the right leadership capability and being able to execute on your ideas and plans. The consequences of not having the right level of influence as a leader can be significant. Without the ability to inspire and motivate others, you may struggle to achieve your goals and make a real impact. How Influential Are you? Take the scorecard at amplifyyourinfluence.scoreapp.com and see.  Catalysing Transformation - 1 min video Judith's book: The Maverick Paradox: The Secret Power Behind Successful Leaders.  Judith's websites:  The Maverick Paradox Magazine - themaverickparadox.com The Maverick Paradox Website - maverickparadox.co.uk Judith's LinkedIn profile is here, her Twitter profile (MaverickMastery) is here, Facebook here and Instagram here.