Author and RW columnist Lisa Jackson joins us to discuss the concept of micro-steps – the tiny moves forward we all can make to achieve lofty goals. Lisa has been reading James Clear's Atomic Habits, which focuses on the micro-steps approach, and it turns out she's in good company – Eliud Kipchoge's been reading it too. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.