Matt Fitzgerald is a coach and author of more than twenty books, including "How Bad Do You Want It?" In this conversation, we talk about pacing by feel, mental toughness vs mental fitness, competing for our identity, and lots more.More about Matt hereFind us on Social: Ben | PatrickAbout the ShowChasing Excellence is dedicated to dissecting what it means to live a life of excellence, inside the gym and out. New episodes every Tuesday.About BenBen Bergeron is a best-selling author, coach to 7 CrossFit Games champions, and founder of CFNE and CompTrain.About PatrickPatrick Cummings is a long-time CrossFitter, podcaster, and brand coach to gym owners & entrepreneurs.