In this episode, Jeff invites Donna Hamlin, PhD to delve into the transformative journey of the HR department from its origins as primarily compliance-focused to its current role as a strategic advisor within organizations. Donna is CEO of BoardWise and an expert in corporate governance and strategic human capital management. Jeff and Donna highlight the challenges and opportunities faced by HR professionals. Their conversation explores HR leaders' need to develop strategic thinking skills and foster closer collaboration with executive leadership to drive organizational change and deliver high value.