Join host James Mackey on this value-packed episode as he sits down with Boris Epstein, Founder of Binc and former Head of TA at Robinhood, a well-known expert in recruiting and building talent-first organizations. The conversation dives into the topic of how to attract and retain top talent, with a specific focus on recruiting in the tech space. They share their experience in the early stages of hiring in a growth stage and discuss the importance of having a unique and distinguished value proposition to stand out from the competition.James and Boris delve into the process and key data points to consider. The discussion also explores the distinction between hiring for talent versus culture and explains what it means to be a talent-first organization.They point out the relevance of leveraging data-driven metrics for success and emphasize the significance of building a data-driven recruitment model from day one.They also provide key takeaways from leading teams through uncharted waters and the importance of measuring results and metrics as an integral part of building a successful team.They continue the conversation by discussing how to respond quickly to market conditions without making a false step that could be detrimental and share valuable strategies for navigating these situations. The episode concludes by emphasizing the significance of setting realistic and achievable goals in recruitment.   0:47 Boris Epstein introduction   3:27 How to attract and retain top talent in the early stages of growth stage  6:54 How to fine-tune the value proposition13:29 What does it mean to be a talent first organization17:26 The importance of hiring top-quality talent and metrics23:49 The importance of having a data driven approach to hiring27:41 Leading teams through uncharted waters in the technology industry35:08 How to respond quickly to turbulent market conditions37:37 How to build a talent-first culture42:17 The importance of setting realistic and achievable goals vs. unrealistic goals Thank you to our sponsor, SecureVision, for making this show possible! Our host James Mackey Follow us:https://www.linkedin.com/company/82436841/#1 Rated Embedded Recruitment Firm on G2!https://www.g2.com/products/securevision/reviewsThanks for listening!