Stephen Phillips, the CEO of Zappi and chair of the MRS sustainability council joins Ryan on this episode to discuss sustainable growth, survey consulting and workable business models.
Zappi is a platform of data and trends for creators. 
 
KEY TAKEAWAYS

Investing in a company that seems like a safe bet doesn’t make for a great choice from an investment perspective. There are few high growth prospects to be had from this method.
When it comes to founding a tech company, the importance of knowing where your particular skill set lies in the company and then identifying the roles that need filling and finding the right people for them has to be your first and foremost on your agenda.
 As your company expands there could be a point where you and your partner companies aren’t on the same page and it’s important to recognize this and be able to uncouple for your continued growth.
Trust your team. This becomes harder as the company expands, but the importance of keeping that trust at the core is worth millions.

 
BEST MOMENTS
‘Advisors keep telling me that we’re very capital efficient.’ 
‘If you combine really understanding the market you’re trying to digitize and also having the digitization expertise and skills, then you’re in a pretty good place.’ 
‘Everyone has their failures and also successes.’
‘They had been charging large amounts of money for someone to spend months doing what we could do at the flick of a button on our system.’
 
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Ryan Staley
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Stephen Phillips - https://uk.linkedin.com/in/steve-phillips-2121ab 
 
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How do you grow like a VC backed company without taking on investors? Do you want to create a lifestyle business, a performance business or an empire? How do you scale to an exit without losing your freedom?Join the host Ryan Staley every Monday and Wednesday for conversations with the brightest and best Founders, CEO’s and Entrepreneurs to crack the code on repeatable revenue growth, leadership, lifestyle freedom and mindset.This show has featured Startup and Billion Dollar Founders, Best Selling Authors, and the World’s Top Sales and Marketing Experts like Terry Jones (Founder of Travelocity and Chairman of Kayak), Andrew Gazdecki (Founder of Micro Acquire), Harpaul Sambhi (Founder of Magical with a previous exit to Linkedin) and many more.
This is where Scaling and Sales are made simple in 25 minutes or less.
 
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Ryan is a Founder, Podcast Host, Speaker, Loving Father, Husband and Dog Dad. He is an 18x award winner and grew a business unit from 0-$30M in Annual Recurring Revenue while adding $30M in capital revenue in less than 6 years.  He did this all with only 4 salespeople and without demand generation.  
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