We share words of caution to Realtors® in this frightening but insightful episode with real estate agent turned criminal profiler, Phil Chalmers, through his 12-step plan to avoid dangerous situations. You will also get a glimpse inside the minds of serial killers and other crazy stuff you won’t want to miss!   Key takeaways to listen for What it’s like interviewing death row inmates? Serial killers: Facts, fiction, and motives for murder Safety tips and practices for Realtors® Why learning self-defense is important   Resources mentioned in this episode Full Episode: The Client - Dateline Killer Kids The Sons of Sam: A Descent into Darkness Blog | 12 steps to be Proactive & Prepared: Real Estate Safety Plan   About Phil Chalmers Phil is a true-crime writer, a criminal profiler, and law enforcement and real estate agents trainer. He has been researching homicide and interviewing offenders for over 35 years and is the author of several books, including “Inside the Mind of a Teen Killer” and “The Teen Killer Whisperer.” He has spoken with over 500 murderers, including teen killers, school shooters, mass murderers, and serial killers. He has recently interviewed and researched those who have raped, kidnapped, or murdered real estate agents. He is also working on a book about violence in the real estate industry, how to prevent it, and marketing strategies and tools to help readers dominate the market.   Connect with Phil Website: Phil Chalmers Podcast: Where the Bodies Are Buried Facebook: Phil Chalmers Instagram: @truecrimephil Twitter: @TrueCrimePhil YouTube: Phil Chalmers Email: philchalmerstv@gmail.com Phone: (216) 469-8253   Connect with Leigh Please subscribe to this podcast on iTunes or the Podcasts App on your phone, and never miss a beat from Leigh by visiting https://leighbrown.com. DM Leigh Brown on Instagram @ LeighThomasBrown. Subscribe to Leigh's other podcast Real Estate From The Rooftops! Sponsor Leigh Brown University Enroll NOW to start scaling YOUR Real Estate business! Link: https://www.leighbrownuniversity.com/advanced