This week's Lunch Therapy patient, Cathy Barrow (aka: Mrs. Wheelbarrow), is the highly accomplished author of four cookbooks — Mrs. Wheelbarrow's Practical Pantry (an IACP Winner for best single-subject cookbook), Pie Squared (a James Beard-award nominee for baking and desserts), When Pies Fly, and her most recent, Bagels, Schmears, and a Nice Piece of Fish. In today's session, we talk all about the bagel, how she came up with a winning recipe, how she left her career in marketing to become a landscape designer, learning from her grandmother and great-grandmother in the kitchen (recipes like chopped liver, chicken soup, and cinnamon-swirl coffee cake). We also cover the time she ran a fish market, getting discovered by the NYT, how she makes her latkes with no matzo meal, and how “a nice piece of fish” isn't just something my grandfather said. Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.