Did you know that the principles a hostage negotiator uses to negotiate with a hostage-taker can be applied to leadership? It seems far-fetched, I know. But Derek Gaunt takes the concept and drives it home in his book, “Ego, Authority, Failure: Using Emotional Intelligence Like a Hostage Negotiator to Succeed as a Leader.”  In this episode of Negotiations Ninja, we get into the specifics of the hostage negotiation framework, tactical empathy, the ability to build emotional control into conversations, and how to be an overall better leader. Do not miss this incredible conversation with a true master of negotiation.  Outline of This Episode [2:06] Learn more about Derek Gaunt  [3:33] The hostage negotiation framework  [9:14] How to mitigate defensiveness [11:30] Embrace a curious mindset [16:46] Maintaining emotional control [20:51] How to coach a “Blue Flamer” Resources & People Mentioned Never Split the Difference by Chris Voss Connect with Derek Gaunt The Black Swan Group Connect on LinkedIn Ego, Authority, Failure: Using Emotional Intelligence Like a Hostage Negotiator to Succeed as a Leader. Connect With Mark Follow Negotiations Ninja on Twitter: @NegotiationPod Connect with Mark on LinkedIn Follow Negotiations Ninja on LinkedIn Connect on Instagram: @NegotiationPod Subscribe to Negotiations Ninja