In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Robert Riopel on the 4 phases of life! He explains how to be more OPEN. How to utilise the acronym: Observation Pamper Energy Unclutter In their conversation they discuss what separates Maverick Leaders from others and how they utilise OPEN to best effect. This is an interesting, amusing conversation around dealing with chaos. Listen up to the rest of the conversation. The Maverick Paradox @ KLDR is now live! Go to the Facebook Page to find out more: KLDROnline Judith's websites:  The Maverick Paradox Magazine - themaverickparadox.com Company Website - maverickparadox.co.uk Judith's LinkedIn profile is here, her Twitter profile (MaverickMastery) is here, Facebook here and Instagram here.