My patient today, Steve Sando, is the man behind everyone's favorite heirloom bean company, Rancho Gordo, which got many of us through the pandemic with their jewel-like bean offerings. In today's session, Steve talks about, well, beans: how to cook them, when to salt them, why they make so many of us so gassy. We also get personal, talking about Steve's childhood in Sausalito, his dad's diving for abalone, feeling like an outsider, his trips to Mexico, being bad with money, starting a business, and raising his own sons around the dinner table. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit amateurgourmet.substack.com/subscribe Our GDPR privacy policy was updated on August 8, 2022. Visit acast.com/privacy for more information.