In this episode, Jo & Vicky sit down to talk with Kelly Gorman Dunbar from the USA who after a long career is now mainly mentoring other trainers. They discuss qualifications, the importance of networking, training and coaching techniques, public perception and finding your niche.
Kelly clarifies what the difference between trainers and behaviourists is. She also talks about finding your niche, acquiring the business skills you need, setting boundaries and time management.
KEY TAKEAWAYS

The path into the dog business is still not clear, some of the options are discussed in the episode.
It is OK to admit that you don´t know everything, then do some extra research or refer a client on.
Lean on your network of other dog trainers that you know and trust.
Know your strengths and what type of work suits you.
Learning how to manage owners is crucial.
Manage expectations and be honest about what is possible.
Keep things simple.
Most dog business owners suffer from imposter syndrome, disorganisation or overwhelm at some point.
The most common mistake is feeling guilty and doing extra things for free.
Value yourself, charge enough to live well, and do the pro bono stuff when there is a genuine need.
Keep learning and challenging yourself, but not to the point where you feel overwhelmed.
If you have trouble with boundaries and saying no, pretend that you are your own assistant.

BEST MOMENTS
‘There is value in knowing your limitations while you´re growing.’
‘That people bit is such a crucial part of it.’
‘Find your people find somebody to talk to and to train with.’
 
EPISODE RESOURCES
https://www.instagram.com/kellydunbardogtraining
https://www.facebook.com/kellygormandunbar
https://the-dog-training-league.mn.co/landing?space_id=11391257
https://www.tiktok.com/discover/kelly-dunbar
https://lnk.bio/KellyDunbarDogTraining
 
SOCIALS
https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness
https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness
 
ABOUT THE HOSTS
Meet Jo and Vicky! They bring a combined 25 years of expertise in the canine industry. Jo, with a background in corporate business, and Vicky, a dedicated advocate for rescue organisations, form an unstoppable team. Beyond the mic, their lives are a whirlwind – managing two successful businesses, pursuing a full-time university degree, and parenting two little ones under four. Each of their homes combined is a lively menagerie, housing five dogs and an abundance of chickens.