**Today's Episode: Ellen King **This week, we're excited to welcome Ellen King to SALT + SPINE, the podcast on stories behind cookbooks.Ellen is the author of ***Heritage Baking: Recipes for Rustic Breads and Pastries Baked with Artisanal Flour from Hewn Bakery***.We sat down with Ellen at our studio inside San Francisco's The Civic Kitchen to discuss how heritage grains can make baked good more tolerable and enjoyable for those with gluten sensitivity, what drew her to bread baking, her interest in history, and we plan a pun-filled bread game.And this week, we chat with **Deborah Reid about her recent piece for Eater, **“Selling Cookbooks in the Age of Amazon”.Plus, as always we check in with Celia Sack at Omnivore Books in San FranciscoBonus Salt + Spine Features:Recipe: Heritage Dark Chocolate BrowniesGet the Cookbook: Omnivore Books [signed copies!] | Amazon--Read More:"Baker Ellen King Wants To Change The Way America Eats Bread" | Food Republic--About Salt + SpineSalt + Spine is hosted by Brian Hogan Stewart.Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | GooglePlayFind us on Patreon, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.Our website is SaltAndSpine.com. Shop for Salt + Spine books in our bookstore.We record Salt + Spine at San Francisco's The Civic Kitchen. Thanks to Jen Nurse, Chris Bonomo, and The Civic Kitchen team. Our theme song was produced by Brunch For Lunch. For more music, visit soundcloud.com/BrunchforLunch. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit saltandspine.substack.com/subscribe