This week, we're thrilled to welcome John Becker & Megan Scott to Salt + Spine, the podcast on cookbooks.While it might seem weird to say a book — not an author — needs perhaps no introduction, that feels like a fitting statement for Joy of Cooking. With 20 million copies in print, it’s the most-published cookbook in the us and often considered the most popular. And for many, the most beloved.And it all dates back to 1931 — nearly 90 years ago — when John Becker’s great-grandmother, Irma Rombauer, self-published 3,000 copies of a cookbook she titled Joy of Cooking, using half her life savings. And after several updates and revisions over the years — some of them more divisive than others — the fourth generation of the Rombauer/Becker family has taken oven the helm.John and Megan spent nearly a decade working on this edition — and while it keeps the spirit of Joy alive with 4,000 favorite recipes “revised and updated” — it also includes 600 new recipes. It continues to be a door-stopping 1,200 pages. There are numerous new and improved elements in this edition: new American classics like Chicago-style deep dish pizza and buckeyes now complement classics like brownies, roast turkey, and apple pie. Modern recipes — from a kimchi mac and cheese and a roasted cauliflower with green olives and lemon — share the pages with new globally inspired dishes like Thai-style wings, mapo dofu, and lamb shawarma.In today’s show, we’re talking with John and Megan about:how they tested and developed these thousands and thousands of recipes -- all without a dishwasher;how it was Joy of Cooking that brought them together in the first place;and how they’re continuing on the traditions and significance of the Joy of Cooking brand.Plus, we play a Joy of Cooking-themed game with John and Megan.Also, in today’s show:Cookbook critic Paula Forbes of Stained Page News joins us to preview new cookbooks being published in April.Recipes from Joy of Cooking for Black Bean Soup, Banana Bread Cockaigne, and Miso-Glazed Eggplant – all available on www.saltandspine.com. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit saltandspine.substack.com/subscribe