This episode was originally recorded on 4 March 2020 prior to the WHO declaring Covid as a pandemic. In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Catherine Rocheleau about how leadership should be linked to social impact. The circumstances of the pandemic has proven the need for this changing dynamic predicted by Catherine. We discuss how to link social impact with leadership and how engaging and interacting with employees in the right way empowers conscious leaders. Listen up to the rest of the conversation to discover more. If you wish to listen to The Maverick Paradox @KLDR Online Leadership Development Radio as the episodes are broadcasted, then visit the KLDROnline website. Judith's websites:  The Maverick Paradox Magazine - themaverickparadox.com Company Website - maverickparadox.co.uk Judith's LinkedIn profile is here, her Twitter profile (MaverickMastery) is here, Facebook here and Instagram here.