On this episode of the Talent Acquisition Leaders podcast, Ryan Dull gives his outlook on the current state of the TA industry in an interview with Phil Strazzulla, Founder of Select Software Reviews.
Ryan has been in the talent acquisition and recruiting industry for nearly 27 years, and began in a corporate capacity. Eight years ago he started Sagemark to help TA leaders modernize their systems so they can scale up quickly and efficiently.
Phil is an industry leader in the world of HR and recruiting software. Through his company, he helps HR leaders find the best software for their specific business needs, maximizing efficiency and ROI.
Ryan and Phil talk about today’s market, which is the most challenging market they have ever seen. This is due to many factors including the pandemic, the great resignation, and remote work.
It is very much a candidates’ market, and employers need to adapt their processes to be more candidate-friendly — or they will lose out on attracting top talent.
Ryan and Phil dive into the challenges recruiters and talent acquisition leaders face, and offer solutions for navigating the rough seas of today’s market. It’s an eye-opening conversation that is both informative and entertaining.

Phil Strazzulla
Ryan Dull

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