Jeff interviews Wendy Ryan, CEO of Kadabra who shares about what it looks like to create a surge of positive change as a leader. They discuss how to change the things that hold leaders back, and the impact of mindsets in our work. Wendy shares some problems found with the commonly used model of meritocracy, and what to do about it.


Wendy has been the CEO of the consulting firm Kadabra since 2014, and she is the author of the book "Learn Lead Lift." She is an equity & inclusion advocate, a speaker, advisor, and a facilitator. Her team includes an interdisciplinary group of leadership and change experts who are all on a mission to grow exceptional leaders and teams.