In the midst of challenging times, there can still be hope and a way forward. Today we welcome back to the show Kathy Turiano to talk about finding hope in the face of difficulty. Kathy is the Co-Owner of Joe Bean Coffee Roasters in Rochester, NY, an award winning Roastery and cafe in Rochester, NY that has consistently set the pace for specialty coffee in their city and beyond. Our initial interview with Kathy was a Founder Friday back in May of 2017 (link below). This interview was also focused on the overcoming difficulty and pivoting the business as that has been a theme of sorts since Joe Bean was founded.  During the last three years since we last talked, a lot has changed and they faced some of the biggest challenges to date. Challenges that crushed their spirits. In all of it they were able to find hope, light, and ultimately a better version of their business as a result.  My hope is that Kathy's story of overcoming hardships and letting it shape their business for good, will bring you hope in this very difficult time. To me it is a story of learned resiliency and taking things one step at a time. We will learn some pretty important mindsets to have and lessons in how to lead ourselves and communicate with other when things get really tough. We need stories that encourage and I am certain this interview was meant for such a time as this.    Links: www.joebeanroasters.com Joe Bean on IG   Related Episodes: 043 : Founder Friday! Kathy Turiano / Joe Bean Coffee Roasters / A tale of overcoming challenges, new beginnings, and building a strong team, business, and community through coffee 200! : From Tragedy to Triumph : Navigating Change w/ Talor Browne of Talormade, Oslo, Norway 135 : Staying Motivated in the Midst of Difficulty 111 : Self-Care 101: Six Ways to Make Sure You are taking Care of Yourself While Taking Care of Others Self-Betrayal and the Art of Action 008 : Finding Joy in Coffee w/ Nathanael May 184 : Making Great Business Decisions w/ Dave Stachowiak   The BEST in commercial coffee equipment www.prima-coffee.com/keys   Want the best plant based beverage for your coffee drinks?  www.pacificfoods.com/food-service