*** In Episode Three our two leads meet for ramen and dumplings, and after we gush over how much we love both of those things, we discuss the easy, flirty, spontaneous banter between them about movies like Secretary. Kate thinks things are getting spicy, but Carinn thinks this is really an example of the two of them having different expectations. (01:36)*** Are these two in love yet? Not surprisingly, we have different answers to this! But first we discuss her past coming back to haunt her at the table, the way the two of them push each other and intrigue one another, and how these lost souls start to connect. (07:24) *** This episode ends with a reference to Woody Allen’s Annie Hall and we debate whether this is a “will they or won’t they” relationship and how this dynamic is affecting each of our viewing experiences. (18:28)*** Episode Four is a real standout for us both, and not just because of the gorgeous Roman setting. Our two leads are not even together -- he is on a work trip in Rome and she is home in Spain with the flu -- and yet we feel their love and intimacy starting to grow. Even an appearance from a past lover of his can’t get in the way of his love sick heart. (22:36)*** The conversations between him and his ex flame raise so many interesting and thoughtful points about relationships that mirror the large issues and themes of the series. Kate continues to relate to him and Carinn is on fire with various theories on love and relationships! (29:36)*** She calls him back, he puts his airpods in, and then she walks him through the Rome she loves. She saves him in more ways than one and we are so here for their romantic, intimate walking tour. (37:02)*** The ice cream philosopher is another brilliant secondary character who gets us talking about honesty, intentions, and living in denial. She has our heads spinning in the best possible way! (40:09) Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com. Stay Complicated!We’ve launched a platform at patreon.com/popfictionwomen to keep making the podcast you love -- and to make it even better. For a one time contribution to support this episode, use venmo @carinn-jade. Thank you for your support and enjoy the show!!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.