We may have initially resisted jumping on what felt like an over-hyped bandwagon for this HBO Max hit, but Hacks and the brilliance of Jean Smart won us over instantly! If you loved Hacks as much as we do, you’ll want to listen to our discussion of these complicated women, Deborah and Hannah. We start by marveling at how their coming together allows us to love them each even more as individuals.  ** Scenes. We wanted to discuss them all, but we managed to narrow it down to some of our favorites. We discuss Episode 2, “Primm”, which Carinn declares the best episode of TV ever! I think we’re still humming that Selena Gomez song in our heads! (06:52); Episode 6, “New Eyes” where Deborah literally gets her eyes done, but figuratively they end up seeing each other in new ways (20:32);  Episode 9, “The Interview,” has Kate on the couch, relating to Deborah’s vulnerability with a reporter (32:43); and Episode 10, “I Think She Will”, is a finale with a fight, a funeral and a bombshell cliffhanger. (41:40)** What’s Your Damage? It’s like the creators of Hacks just knew how much we love mommy issues! Talk about a theme that runs through-out this show! (56:25)** What She Said (or in this case, What They Said). We deep dive into our first writing trio, Lucia Aniello, Paul Downs and Jen Statsky, marveling about the dynamic of these long-time friends and real life couple. (60:02)** Who Won The Show? For Kate, the winner is generational conflict and for Carinn it’s the brilliant reversal of typical female tropes displayed through-out this show. (66:37)**Takeaways. Kate takes a quote from co-creator Jen Statsky and gets personal about collaboration and saying yes. Carinn talks about ambition and the ways we see that depicted in Hacks are nuanced and original. (83:25)Follow us on Instagram and Facebook @popfictionwomen and on Twitter @pop_women. To do a full deep dive, check out our website at www.popfictionwomen.com. Stay Complicated!We’ve launched a platform at patreon.com/popfictionwomen to keep making the podcast you love -- and to make it even better. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.