Daisy Jones and The Six by Taylor Jenkins Reid: Women Who Rock**Our Complicated Woman. Daisy Jones is certainly nobody’s muse, and while she hits all the marks of a complicated woman, we can’t always feel her conflict as much as we would like. Do we really know Daisy or is it that she doesn’t even know herself? Or is it a limitation of the unique oral history, transcript-style structure? (Starts at 01:22)**The Daisy-Camila-Billy Love Triangle. Carinn thinks Daisy doesn't stand a chance against Camila, even with the rocky patches of her marriage with Billy. Listen to hear how parts of their story were inspired by Beyoncé’s Lemonade album. (13:47)**Daisy & Billy: Is it a love story? Daisy is certainly in love with Billy, but does it go both ways? Carinn argues that Billy doesn’t love Daisy in any definition of the word while Kate sees a real connection between them, a passion akin to Bradley Cooper & Lady Gaga or Lindsey Buckinham & Stevie Nicks. (18:43) **We play arm-chair therapist in What’s Your Damage, Heather? An homage to the iconic line in Winona Rider’s Heathers, we discuss how Daisy got to be the way she is. Clearly Daisy was neglected by her parents, always striving to find a place to belong and a meaningful connection. Daisy fills the void with drugs and alcohol, telling us that “I had all the things you can see and none of the things you can’t.” (33:33)**We tell you What She Said, the segment where we share some of our favorite first person quotes from Taylor Jenkins Reid, the author of Daisy Jones & The Six. Carinn shares Taylor Jenkins Reid’s passion for capturing what it feels like to love from so many different perspectives. (37:10)**Kate pulls the perfect Taylor Jenkins Reid quote for this podcast about the depiction of complicated women in fiction and the need for our society to take female-driven content more seriously. Carinn argues that the critical thinking on these projects needs to shift away from men and we assure Taylor that we hear her and we're on it! (41:26) **Author or Songwriter, but both, really? Kate is beyond impressed that Taylor Jenkins Reid not only writes about music so vividly, but actually wrote the lyrics to the entire Aurora album. Kate gets personal, confessing that when she wrote her novel it involved a songwriter and when it came time to write the lyrics for just a verse she had a total panic attack. Meanwhile, Taylor Jenkins Reid’s book is not just being turned into a TV show, but it will also have an accompanying album. (44:35)**We talk ambition. Carinn shares that Taylor Jenkins Reid’s biggest surprise on her career path has been the scope of her ambition. We’re inspired by her continual drive to push herself and by a women who proudly owns the fact that she wants more for herself. (46:55)**Gaze into our Crystal Ball. Taylor Jenkins Reid provides us a look decades into the future, but we debate whether Billy reaches out to Daisy after Camila dies. Carinn doesn't see a future love story that picks up where they left off, but Kate convinces her that Billy and Daisy could start anew (48:40) **Takeaway. Using a quote from Karen, Carinn posits that love between two people is really found in the opposites, the ways two people are different. Kate wonders whether if she could ever be as good, and trusting, and dogged in her faith in another as Camila. They both agree that Daisy is the engine of this book, but Camila is the heart. (54:55)Stay Complicated!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.