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'Something's Gotta Give' & Nancy Meyers

'Something's Gotta Give' & Nancy Meyers

FromPop Fiction Women


'Something's Gotta Give' & Nancy Meyers

FromPop Fiction Women

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Length:
105 minutes
Released:
Feb 26, 2020
Format:
Podcast episode

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Something’s Gotta Give & Nancy Meyers: crying at your computer complicated**Quick Cap Intro: We’re trying something new in this episode! Before we get to Erica Barry and Something’s Gotta Give, we dissect the New York Times Opinion piece by Brit Marling with the incendiary title, “I Don’t Want To Be The Strong Female Lead”. We couldn’t resist this teaser: “In pop culture, women are often objectified and disposed of. But even when we’re not being victimized, the alternative leaves much to be desired.”We unpack Brit’s fascinating journey from Goldman Sachs to Netflix darling The OA, and of course find a way to compare Brit's ideas of the hero's journey to Fleabag and Erica Barry. We also dig DEEP into what it means to have masculine and feminine traits, pulling from astrology, Chinese philosophy and Tantric tradition.Something’s Gotta Give (starts at 22:30)**It all comes together. We start with a discussion of the similarities this movie has with When Harry Met Sally and Always Be My Maybe, with a little Sleeping With Other People thrown in. (22:30)**Complicated Woman Rating. Kate thinks Erica is “absolutely” a complicated woman, citing how other characters describe her and how she describes herself; Carinn agrees that her vulnerability and who she is when she’s falling in love is where she sees the paradox in her personality, but she sees this as too much of Harry’s story as he is the one who ultimately has to change (27:45).**Scenes. We discuss the movie's iconic speeches, starting with Erica Barry’s sister, Zoe’s (played by Frances McDormand) speech about dating for women over 50 (39:11); moving to the vulnerable speech Erica gives after running into Harry with another woman: “I don’t want my bearings, I’ve had my bearings my whole goddamn life!” (42:22); but then Harry’s speech at the end on the bridge in Paris, while fitting for his character, left us wanting more, with Carinn arguing that Harry needed to tell Erica why he was in love with Erica (47:50); Harry gets his unglued, emotional moment when he goes to watch her play (50:02); Erica and her daughter, Marin, have some great moments and discussions about love (51:58); Erica with Julian, the young, dashing Keanu Reeves...Kate finds it all very cringy, Carinn likes how the tables have turned (55:40); then we discuss the scene after they have sex and our thoughts on Harry’s reference to soulmates (60:10).**What’s Your Damage, Heather? We discuss how Erica got to be the way she is. Kate finds it very relatable, by being so strong and impervious she allowed herself to be closed off — she was content, but not open and vulnerable. She believes Erica uses her strength to separate herself and it can be isolating and lonely (61:33). Carinn laments that as a “fixer”, someone that friends come to with their deepest secrets, she sometimes feels isolated because she never gets her turn to be broken (65:00)**What She Said - Nancy Meyers. Carinn went down the rabbit hole of Nancy Meyers' personal life and just how autobiographical Something’s Gotta Give really is. Kate loves her perspective as a female filmmaker and how she makes movies with complicated women with real problems. Nancy Meyers is a Sagittarius, another fire sign, so of course we love her. (67:14)**Crystal ball. Six months after the final scene, Kate has Harry and Erica still together, but it’s hard to teach an old dog new tricks and she sees him falling down a Johnny Cash hole of depression and addiction; Carinn envisions a future five years out for Erica and Julian. Erica realizes HE was the one who got away, and fate brings them together when Marin has complications during her third pregnancy. (79:50)**Takeaways. Kate’s takeaway is that sometimes you need to cut your turtleneck off, meaning whatever is constricting you or holding you back, cut it open and let it go. Carinn ponders a quote — “fast love expires like milk, patient love sticks like honey” — and concludes everyone needs both (93:00). Stay Complicated!Follo
Released:
Feb 26, 2020
Format:
Podcast episode

Titles in the series (100)

In Pop Fiction Women we deep-dive into the complicated women of books, movies and TV shows, along with the women that bring them to life behind the scenes. Think Fleabag and Phoebe Waller Bridge, Normal People and Sally Rooney, and so much more. In each episode you can expect us to: * Break down the protagonist as we ask what makes her complicated? * Identify the best scenes, which can mean sweetest, funniest, or most badass. Anything we love. * Recount the cringiest scenes. The ones that make you squirm. Sometimes it’s self-sabotage, sometimes it’s growth, but it’s always part of the process of becoming our complicated selves. * Play arm-chair therapist in What’s Your Damage, Heather? An homage to the iconic line in Winona Rider’s Heathers, we discuss how these characters got to be the way they are. * “What She Said” - the segment where we scour every essay and interview with the women behind the scenes and share some of our favorite first person quotes. Real life is as interesting as fiction here. * Look into our crystal ball and ponder where these characters are six months later and five years later. Typically, Kate gets very real and Carinn gets buck wild. * Provide a takeaway, aka that part in the podcast where we try to sound deep. We leave you with some parting wisdom, challenge each other with thought-provoking questions inspired by the work, and urge you to “stay complicated.”