Meera Klemola and Astrid Kohlmeier are legal design pioneers. They are both teachers, speakers and writers, specialising in the application of design principles to legal services delivery. Both have consulted on this topic to the world's largest law firms and in-house teams. For this episode we sat down with Meera and Astrid to discuss their book, "The Legal Design Book", which was published in 2021. We covered many topics including: * Why they wrote the book and why now is the right time to publish it * What "legal design" is and how it differs from some other methodologies, such as Lean Six Sigma and Agile * Why "legal design" is about more than visually pleasing documents * The key philosophies and mindsets that underly legal design * How to apply legal design in practice, including case studies * The relationship between legal design and legal operations LINKS The book: https://legaldesign-book.com/ Meera's website: https://www.groundm.com/ Meera on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meera-klemola/ Astrid's website: https://astridkohlmeier.de/ Astrid on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/astridkohlmeier/