Today, Justin Maguire is Chief Design Officer at the CRM and Cloud-computing giant Salesforce, but for years he led creative teams at frog, first helping to launch the Seattle studio, and later bringing his lifelong passion for design to frog’s Munich location. Recently, Justin sat down with frog President Andy Zimmerman to talk building design economies in 2021 and beyond, as well as the importance of making the business case for creative thinking. Justin also shares how he’s leading Salesforce into a new era of design built on relationships between people, products and the planet. Brought to you by frog, a design and strategy consultancy. frog is part of Capgemini Invent. (https://www.frog.co)Find episode transcripts (https://fro.gd/3auSBTA)Download the AI Playbook (https://fro.gd/39tqh5l)Audio Production: Richard Canham (https://www.richardcanham.com/)