Design has earned its seat at the table. Now what? Today on our show, we feature a conversation between Andrea Sutton, VP Design Technology at American telco giant AT&T and Tim Morey, Global Managing Director at frog. Andrea and Tim are two leaders merging creative instinct and business strategy to deliver the next generation of products, services and experiences. Hear their candid discussion on scaling DesignOps in a massive organization, leading creative teams and insights from their careers in design, business and consulting.Brought to you by frog, a global creative consultancy. frog is part of Capgemini Invent. (https://www.frog.co)Find episode transcripts and relevant info (https://www.frog.co/designmind/design-mind-frogcast-ep-25-designops-at-scale)Download the new frog report 'The State of Service Design in the U.S.' (https://go.frog.co/the-state-of-service-design-in-the-us)Research: Camilla Brown, Senior Copyeditor, frogAudio Production: Richard Canham, Lizard Media (https://www.lizardmedia.co.uk/)