In this episode Judith Germain speaks to Charlene Norman about what is leadership now and how leaders can make a significant difference. They also talk about what stops teams from changing and why the top job suddenly becomes undesirable. Working for a company that strip your soul isn't worth working for. Charlene and Judith ponder on how it feels when the team doesn't need you. They also consider the thorny question of how you can teach leadership now and why blind followership is undesirable.  Judith's websites:  The Maverick Paradox Magazine - themaverickparadox.com All about Mavericks - maverickparadox.com Mavericks at Work - maverickparadox.co.uk Judith's LinkedIn profile is here, her Twitter profile (MaverickMastery) is here, Facebook here and Instagram here. She is also the author of The Maverick Paradox: The Secret Power Behind Successful Leaders