This week's guest Brian Haugli is a "recovering CISO" - a veteran manager of big-company Information Security who is re-packaging that skillset for the SMB market. Brian is also the host of CISOlife, a YouTube channel about struggles, tools, and solutions for CISOs. We talk about Brian's early days as a physical security tester, realistic vendor assessment, and the origin of his company SideChannel.   RealCISO.io - https://www.realciso.io).  SideChannel - https://www.sidechannel.com YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/c/sidechannel Twitter - @sidechannelsec or @brianhaugli