This discussion with multiple time BJJ world champion Fabio Gurgel was amazing.  He talked about coming up under Jacare, being trained by Carlson Gracie to fight in Vale Tudo, and then battling Mark 'The Smashing Machine' Kerr in his prime under the old school, no gloves, no rounds, style Brazilian No Holds Barred rules. We also talked about the traditional vs modern jiu-jitsu debate, why the level of BJJ right now is the highest it's ever been, how stalling in matches was worse in the old days, what all world champions have in common, how to create world champions (and keep them on your team), making a living off of jiu-jitsu, and much more. I think you'll love it! If you want to support the podcast then please make sure to rate and review it in Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Stitcher, Soundcloud or wherever you listen to it.  That's hugely important and it's really helping! Thanks Stephan