We talk to Grace Gershuny, organic farmer, writer, and thinker, about the concepts of Social Ecology and how the dairy and cheese industry can do more to address climate change. She teaches for the Institute for Social Ecology and is based in Vermont.Photo Courtesy of Institute for Social Ecology.Heritage Radio Network is a listener supported nonprofit podcast network. Support Cutting the Curd by becoming a member!Cutting the Curd is Powered by Simplecast.