In this episode, Xavier Bonilla has a dialogue with Rob Dunn about the natural history of the future of earth. They discuss the two laws of ecological diversity and how increased ecological diversity is helpful for growth. They also talk about the anthropocentric view of the world and different islands for diverse populations. They discuss the inadvertent ark and how corridors play a role here. They also talk about how humans stay concentrated in certain regions with GDP and violence being contributing factors. They also talk about biodiversity, gut microbiome, and the role of climate change for the future of the earth. 
Rob Dunn is a biologist and professor of applied ecology at North Carolina State University. His research focuses on the world around people in their local environments and his lab examines species, organs, cells, genes, and various ecosystems of everyday life. He is the author of numerous books including the most recent, A Natural History of The Future. You can find his work at his lab. Twitter: @rrobdunn