In this episode of the SECurity Awareness Series of the SEPodcast, Chris Hadnagy and Ryan MacDougall are joined by Ashley Rose, the CEO of Living Security. Listen in as they discuss the best methods to teach cybersecurity awareness, as well as the unique advantages when using escape rooms to do so.  April 19, 2021   00:00 – Introduction  Social-Engineer.com  Slack  Clutch  03:12 – Introduction to Ashley Rose  04:31 – Ashley’s path into cybersecurity awareness  10:59 – Developing an escape room that teaches cybersecurity  15:02 – How Living Security adapted to the pandemic  22:16 – How Ashley gets the attention of potential clients  26:00 – Why “adaptive problem solving” is a vital skill  28:49 – How this training is increasing security awareness  30:47 – The industry’s unhealthy focus on compliance  34:41 – The science that went into developing the training  36:49 – How training can be individualized to increase effectiveness  41:42 – Ashley's contact info  www.livingsecurity.com  Living Security on Twitter  Ashley on LinkedIn  Ashley on Twitter  42:28 – Ashley's most respected colleagues  Venus Goodwine   Chris Nickerson  44:40 – Ashley’s action steps that corporations should start doing right now  49:06 – Ashley's book reccomendations  The CEO Tightrope: How to Master the Balancing Act of a Successful CEO  The Hard Thing About Hard Things: Building a Business When There Are No Easy Answers  50:13 – Outro  Ryan on Twitter  Chris on Twitter  Ashley on Twitter  Living Security on Twitter  Ashley on LinkedIn  Social-Engineer.org   Social-Engineer.com  The Innocent Lives Foundation