In this episode, Ron and Chris are joined by Julie Haney – a computer scientist and Usable Security Researcher at NIST, to talk about the human within the technologist. The trio sit down and have a powerful discussion on ways in which cybersecurity practitioners can bring their best work to the table, the importance of empathy within the workplace, and how to empower ourselves and the security community at large. 
 
Key Takeaways:
02:55  Bio
06:46  Why research?
08:55  Bringing your best work to the table
11:28  Surprising research
12:46  What’s your superpower?
16:10  Empathy in practice
19:27  B.E.S.T.O.W.
22:22  Normalizing CS Advocacy
25:07  What’s missing in cybersecurity?
27:12  Being more intentional
 
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