Dr. Margaret Rutherfood is a Psychologist, successful blogger and host of The SelfWork Podcast.  She is also the author of the bestselling book, Perfectly Hidden Depression: How to Break Free from the Perfectionism that Masks Your Depression.   During her 25 years of working with patients Dr. Rutherford discovered that many people heavily mask depression with perfectionism.  She has spent the last 5 years researching and writing about this topic and passionately spreading the message about becoming more comfortable with vulnerability in everyday life.   In this episode we explore the often unknown dangers of perfectionism, how to know if you may have an issue yourself, the 5 stages of healing and much more.  Listen as we discuss: How she went from a professional singer to a psychologist.  [4:27] Perfectly hidden depression and why I personally was interested in Dr. Rutherford’s work.  [6:12] The correlation between perfectionism and procrastination.  [14:41] How will you know if you have perfectly hidden depression?  [17:36] Why there is no single pathway to destructive perfectionism.   [22:30] The 5 Stages of Healing.  [29:27] Why simplifying can improve (or even save) your life and the importance of the company you keep.  [37:47] What are the real dangers of social media?   [43:30] This episode is brought to you by BiOptimizers. Their P3-OM Probiotics may be the most powerful proteolytic probiotic ever developed. The new, improved P3-OM 2.0 is 3 x time stronger than the original version, which was already incredible.  It supplies your gut with powerful protein-digesting bacteria that increase the pool of bioactive amino acids required for muscle growth and recovery. Go to bioptimizers.com/renegade and use the code “JAY10” to receive 10% off your order.  This episode is also brought to you by Elemental Labs.  Recharge is a tasty electrolyte drink mix that gives your body everything you need and nothing you don’t.  Created in optimal ratios, it provides you with lots of electrolytes and no sugar, fillers or dodgy ingredients.   Go to drinklmnt.com/renegaderadio to get yours today! This episode is also brought to you by Trifecta Nutrition.  Make sticking to your nutrition plan simpler with organic, ready to eat and macro balanced meals shipped safely to your door! Go to TrifectaNutrition.com/Renegade and use the code ‘RENEGADE’ to save 30% off your first order!